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Starbucks to Close 600 stores, Eliminate 12000 Jobs


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« on: July 01, 2008, 04:50:40 pm »

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Starbucks Corp. said Tuesday that it had drastically increased the number of stores it plans to close and could eliminate as many as 12,000 full- and part-time positions as a result. The company said it now plans to close 600 company-operated stores in the United States, up from its previous plans to close 100 stores.

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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2008, 05:12:08 pm »


Wow. I guess starbucks won't rule the world after all.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2008, 06:05:03 pm »


We have three in my town, one in each major chain grocery store.  I don't really like their coffee, it always tastes burnt. Meh. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 06:12:21 pm »

I don't really like their coffee, it always tastes burnt. Meh. 

I don't even drink coffee. What bothers me is closing 600 stores and laying off 12,000 people means that the management GREATLY over-expanded in recent years.  Said management should get a huge in in their wages and benefits for their stupid decisions.  But they are probably already somewhere else or will get pay and benefits raise from the stock price jump the higher profits will cause -- after all these stores are closed and people fired. Management wins no matter what. This is bad for business in the long term.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 06:16:07 pm »

I don't really like their coffee, it always tastes burnt. Meh. 

Agreed.  My city is the hometown of Beaners -ooops, I mean Biggby- coffee, so if I'm craving something fancy I go there.  Usually I just make my own.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2008, 06:33:37 pm »

I don't even drink coffee. What bothers me is closing 600 stores and laying off 12,000 people means that the management GREATLY over-expanded in recent years.  Said management should get a huge in in their wages and benefits for their stupid decisions.  But they are probably already somewhere else or will get pay and benefits raise from the stock price jump the higher profits will cause -- after all these stores are closed and people fired. Management wins no matter what. This is bad for business in the long term.

Not even middle management, upper management.  ALl those little managers are going to lose their jobs too. 

I figure we have at least 4 in town.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2008, 06:35:58 pm »

Management wins no matter what. This is bad for business in the long term.

I've noticed this trend with other companies too.  Borders, for instance.  Big expansions in the main stores, instead of common sense business practices (no maintenance in smaller stores, reducing stock, cutting benefits).  Upper management gets perks, all peons are just that - peons. 

Lowe's has been having the same problem.  Home Depot too, from what I hear.  It isn't about the long run, its the short run with the shareholders that matter.  How much money can they squeeze from their rock before it runs dry. Undecided
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2008, 11:27:51 pm »

We have three in my town, one in each major chain grocery store.  I don't really like their coffee, it always tastes burnt. Meh. 

I'm glad someone out there shares my opinion of starbucks coffee.  It tastes like it's been sitting on the burner for a day.  Unless you get a flavored coffee then it's not bad.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 01:14:14 am »


Weird. They just opened a store here a couple of weeks ago.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2008, 08:15:14 am »

I'm glad someone out there shares my opinion of starbucks coffee.  It tastes like it's been sitting on the burner for a day.  Unless you get a flavored coffee then it's not bad.

I dunno, their carmel macciatos are pretty gross too.  How can you screw up something with carmel in it?!
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2008, 10:09:21 am »

What bothers me is closing 600 stores and laying off 12,000 people means that the management GREATLY over-expanded in recent years. 

That's exactly what I thought when I read the story.  I don't go to Starbucks in general (and I don't think I've even been to a coffee shop since college...I prefer my wife's chai and custom tea blends), but when you live in the sticks like I do and can STILL get to 3 different Starbucks with a less-than-15-minute drive, it's a pretty good sign they've overexpanded just a tick.  Especially considering that what most people around here think of as a "coffee shop" is going to McDonalds.  Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2008, 10:19:46 am »

I'm glad someone out there shares my opinion of starbucks coffee.  It tastes like it's been sitting on the burner for a day.  Unless you get a flavored coffee then it's not bad.

Friends don't let friends go to Starbucks, as we say hereabouts, in Coffee Land. However, I have found that when I am in a place where there is no good coffee (ie, visiting my ILs in Lubbock, TX) getting a large americano is a good facsimile for a real cuppa.
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2008, 10:23:38 am »

Friends don't let friends go to Starbucks, as we say hereabouts, in Coffee Land.

What coffee do friends let friends drink in coffee land?
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2008, 10:45:03 am »

What coffee do friends let friends drink in coffee land?

I don't know about where rose lives, but around here, it's Free-Trade organic coffees from indie, locally owned coffee-houses.
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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2008, 10:47:25 am »

What coffee do friends let friends drink in coffee land?

It depends. You can go here if coffee is your religion
http://www.bluebottlecoffee.net/

Or, if you are more secular in your approach, you might go here
http://www.peets.com/who_we_are/who_we_are.asp

And certainly there are plenty of Starbucks around, for the uninitiated.
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